Fault Codes:Caterpillar General CID2391
What is Caterpillar Fault Code CID2391?
CID2391 indicates a communication error or data issue within the Caterpillar machine's CAN (Controller Area Network) bus system, specifically related to Component ID 2391. This fault typically signifies that the Electronic Control Module (ECM) is unable to properly receive or interpret messages from a specific component or sensor on the network.
In Caterpillar excavators, the CAN bus serves as the central nervous system, allowing multiple electronic controllers and sensors to communicate seamlessly. When CID2391 appears, it means a critical component has either stopped transmitting data, is sending corrupted information, or has completely dropped off the network. This disrupts machine diagnostics, performance monitoring, and can trigger protective derate modes that limit engine power or hydraulic functions to prevent damage.
Common Symptoms
When CID2391 is active on your Caterpillar excavator, operators typically experience:
- Check Engine Light or Master Warning Light illuminated on the dashboard
- Reduced engine power or hydraulic response due to ECM entering derate/limp mode
- Intermittent loss of gauge readings on the instrument cluster (fuel level, temperature, pressure readings may fluctuate or disappear)
- Error messages displayed on the monitor screen indicating communication faults
- Difficulty starting or unexpected shutdowns in severe cases
Potential Causes
CID2391 in used Caterpillar excavators commonly stems from:
- Corroded or damaged CAN bus connectors – especially at harness junction points exposed to moisture, mud, or hydraulic fluid leaks
- Chafed or broken wiring in the main harness, particularly where cables run along the boom, arm, or through the swing bearing area
- Failed electronic module (display controller, hydraulic controller, or aftertreatment controller depending on machine configuration)
- Loose or oxidized ground connections that disrupt signal integrity across the network
- ECM software glitches or outdated firmware requiring reprogramming
- Previous repair work where technicians may have incorrectly spliced wires or used non-spec connectors
How to Troubleshoot and Fix Code CID2391
Step 1: Connect Diagnostic Software Use Caterpillar Electronic Technician (Cat ET) or equivalent diagnostic tool to read active and logged fault codes. Identify which specific component ID corresponds to 2391 in your machine's configuration—this varies by model year and installed options.
Step 2: Inspect CAN Bus Wiring and Connectors Physically trace the CAN High and CAN Low wires (typically twisted pair, orange and yellow) from the ECM to all network components. Pay special attention to areas where harnesses pass through bulkheads, along rotating joints, or near heat sources. Look for:
- Wire insulation damage or green corrosion on copper strands
- Connector pins that are bent, pushed back, or showing moisture intrusion
- Proper 120-ohm termination resistors at network endpoints
Step 3: Test Circuit Resistance and Voltage With ignition off, use a digital multimeter to measure resistance between CAN High and CAN Low terminals—should read approximately 60 ohms with network powered down. Check for shorts to ground (infinite resistance expected). With key on, verify 2.5V nominal on both CAN lines relative to chassis ground.
Step 4: Isolate the Faulty Component Systematically disconnect components one at a time while monitoring the fault with Cat ET. When the fault clears upon disconnecting a specific module, you've identified the problem device. For used excavators, inspect that component's connector for pin corrosion or moisture—often cleaning and applying dielectric grease resolves intermittent CID codes.
Step 5: Clear Codes and Road Test After repairs, clear fault codes and operate the machine under normal working conditions for at least 30 minutes to ensure the communication error doesn't return.
Disclaimer: This guide provides general troubleshooting information. CAN bus diagnostics can be complex, and improper repairs may cause additional electrical issues. For persistent CID2391 faults or if you're uncomfortable working with electronic systems, consult a certified Caterpillar technician or authorized dealer service department.
Fault Description:
The lifting boom claw of the loader arm opens the solenoid valve
Fault Cause:
CID (Component Identifier) : A diagnostic code used to notify maintenance personnel of a fault detected in a specific circuit or system. The CID-FMI diagnostic code is used to describe the detected faults rather than the root causes.
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