Fault Codes:Caterpillar General CID4667
What is Caterpillar Fault Code CID4667?
Caterpillar Fault Code CID4667 indicates an abnormal frequency or update rate detected in the Aftertreatment Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) Doser Unit communication on the CAN (Controller Area Network) bus. This diagnostic trouble code specifically identifies that the DEF doser module is either sending data at an incorrect rate or has stopped communicating entirely with the Engine Control Module (ECM).
This code affects Caterpillar machines equipped with Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) aftertreatment systems, which are critical for meeting Tier 4 Final/Stage IV emissions standards. The DEF doser precisely injects diesel exhaust fluid into the exhaust stream to reduce NOx emissions. When communication fails, the ECM cannot properly control DEF injection rates, potentially triggering engine derate conditions and failing emissions compliance. For used excavators, this code is particularly concerning as it may indicate aging electrical components or corroded connections that compromise system integrity.
Common Symptoms
- Amber or red check engine light illuminated on the instrument cluster
- Engine power derate (reduced horsepower) after a predetermined time period, typically following multiple ignition cycles
- DEF system warning messages displayed on the monitor screen
- Increased diesel exhaust fluid consumption or complete cessation of DEF usage
- Poor engine performance during regeneration cycles or under load conditions
Potential Causes
The most common technical causes for CID4667 in used Caterpillar excavators include:
- Corroded or damaged wiring harness connections at the DEF doser module (common failure point due to heat and moisture exposure)
- Failed DEF doser control unit with internal circuit board degradation
- CAN bus communication issues including damaged termination resistors or shorted wiring
- Loose or corroded ground connections specific to the aftertreatment system
- ECM software version incompatibility or corrupted calibration files
- Physical damage to harness from rubbing against frame members or exhaust components (known issue near doser mounting location)
How to Troubleshoot and Fix Code CID4667
Step 1: Visual Inspection Begin with a thorough physical examination of the DEF doser wiring harness from the doser unit to the main ECM connector. On used excavators, pay special attention to harness routing near the exhaust system where heat damage commonly occurs. Inspect all connectors for corrosion, bent pins, or moisture intrusion. Clean connectors with electrical contact cleaner and apply dielectric grease.
Step 2: Electrical Testing Using Caterpillar Electronic Technician (ET) diagnostic software, monitor real-time CAN bus communication while the engine is running. Check for intermittent communication dropouts. With a digital multimeter, verify proper voltage supply (typically 12-24V depending on machine model) at the doser connector. Measure CAN High and CAN Low resistance between the DEF doser and ECM—should read approximately 60 ohms with key off.
Step 3: Component Testing and Replacement If wiring and voltage checks pass, perform a DEF doser functional test using Cat ET software. This actively commands the doser to inject and monitors response. For used machines with high hours, consider replacing the doser unit assembly if it fails response tests. After replacement, always perform an SCR system reset and verify proper DEF pressure (typically 70-100 PSI) using diagnostic software.
Critical for used excavators: Before replacing expensive components, thoroughly inspect harness wear points where cables contact metal surfaces, as intermittent shorts are frequently misdiagnosed as component failures.
Disclaimer: This guide provides general troubleshooting information. Always consult your Caterpillar service manual and certified technicians for machine-specific procedures. Improper repairs to emissions systems may violate environmental regulations.
Fault Description:
Control position signal #2 for the left front outriggers on the right console
Fault Cause:
CID (Component Identifier) : A diagnostic code used to notify maintenance personnel of a fault detected in a specific circuit or system. The CID-FMI diagnostic code is used to describe the detected faults rather than the root causes.
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